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		<title>By: Hausaufgaben &#171; IP Takeaway - Der Blog</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/working/why-you-should-start-a-sparring-circle/#comment-28169</link>
		<dc:creator>Hausaufgaben &#171; IP Takeaway - Der Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] und Netzwerkbildung (in Köln würde man sagen klüngeln ^_^). Einige treffende Punkte hat Nick Dorra auf freelanceswitch.com beschrieben. Zwar bezieht er sich lediglich auf Freiberufler, jedoch sind die Gründe und die [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] und Netzwerkbildung (in Köln würde man sagen klüngeln ^_^). Einige treffende Punkte hat Nick Dorra auf freelanceswitch.com beschrieben. Zwar bezieht er sich lediglich auf Freiberufler, jedoch sind die Gründe und die [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Kayce</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/working/why-you-should-start-a-sparring-circle/#comment-23824</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Kayce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rene: don&#039;t let geography be a constraint - what Nick is describing here is very similar to a mastermind group I was a part of for years, and we lived in three different corners of the States. We met every other week on a conference line, and it worked great.

Personal chemistry is key, but even more important is clear expectations and intentions going in, though; once my first group ended, I tried with another, and it flopped miserably. It seemed that we had very different ideas for what it was all about, and it crumbled quickly.

If I ever go for it again, I&#039;d be sure to get really, really clear on our purpose, responsibilities, and focus before getting committed. When it&#039;s working, it&#039;s fantastic.. but when it sucks, it sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rene: don&#8217;t let geography be a constraint &#8211; what Nick is describing here is very similar to a mastermind group I was a part of for years, and we lived in three different corners of the States. We met every other week on a conference line, and it worked great.</p>
<p>Personal chemistry is key, but even more important is clear expectations and intentions going in, though; once my first group ended, I tried with another, and it flopped miserably. It seemed that we had very different ideas for what it was all about, and it crumbled quickly.</p>
<p>If I ever go for it again, I&#8217;d be sure to get really, really clear on our purpose, responsibilities, and focus before getting committed. When it&#8217;s working, it&#8217;s fantastic.. but when it sucks, it sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Harbaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Harbaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jaden: Assuming the freelancers weren&#039;t directly competing with one another that would be a great idea to co-op rent a building together. It would be especially helpful if these freelancers were able to help with endeavors on your end as well as you helping them. Like, a couple freelance copywriters with a programmer and a designer and you&#039;ve got yourself a web design business :-)

Great article. Really gets one motivated to get out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jaden: Assuming the freelancers weren&#8217;t directly competing with one another that would be a great idea to co-op rent a building together. It would be especially helpful if these freelancers were able to help with endeavors on your end as well as you helping them. Like, a couple freelance copywriters with a programmer and a designer and you&#8217;ve got yourself a web design business <img src='http://freelanceswitch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Great article. Really gets one motivated to get out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaden @ Screenwriting for Hollywood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaden @ Screenwriting for Hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;they miss the opportunity to talk about work with their co-workers&quot;
Agree!

&quot;not just telling your spouse&quot;
Yeah, I sound like the biggest nerd on the planet when I talk about work.

&quot;missing-link is to start a sparring circle of freelancers&quot;
It&#039;s not the same. Freelancers are always too &quot;busy&quot; and never want to leave the computer face. It&#039;s not like hanging out in the bathroom stalls together talking about an annoying phone call or going to lunch and sneaking a cocktail.

[#4 is missing its boldness.]

I don&#039;t think this would work for me when it comes to freelancing, though I do like and encourage small work groups for creative writing; it keeps writers on track and allows important feedback in a safe environment. Freelancing... I don&#039;t know. It&#039;s still solitary for me, it&#039;s a different beast. 

The only thing I could think of is for a bunch of freelancers to rent an office space together, then you could get that bathroom / kitchen / copier chatty environment that we oddly miss, while still being your own boss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they miss the opportunity to talk about work with their co-workers&#8221;<br />
Agree!</p>
<p>&#8220;not just telling your spouse&#8221;<br />
Yeah, I sound like the biggest nerd on the planet when I talk about work.</p>
<p>&#8220;missing-link is to start a sparring circle of freelancers&#8221;<br />
It&#8217;s not the same. Freelancers are always too &#8220;busy&#8221; and never want to leave the computer face. It&#8217;s not like hanging out in the bathroom stalls together talking about an annoying phone call or going to lunch and sneaking a cocktail.</p>
<p>[#4 is missing its boldness.]</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this would work for me when it comes to freelancing, though I do like and encourage small work groups for creative writing; it keeps writers on track and allows important feedback in a safe environment. Freelancing&#8230; I don&#8217;t know. It&#8217;s still solitary for me, it&#8217;s a different beast. </p>
<p>The only thing I could think of is for a bunch of freelancers to rent an office space together, then you could get that bathroom / kitchen / copier chatty environment that we oddly miss, while still being your own boss.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Dorra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Dorra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback folks!

@Martha: Good points there. Of course you have to do what works best for you. For our group, the sparring has been crucial in developing fool proof marketing strategies for each of us, as there&#039;s been a critical viewing point on every idea. And your right about the commiserating :-) While a little wenting is ok, that&#039;s exactly the reason I encourage people to make an agenda and set an exact time frame for the meetings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback folks!</p>
<p>@Martha: Good points there. Of course you have to do what works best for you. For our group, the sparring has been crucial in developing fool proof marketing strategies for each of us, as there&#8217;s been a critical viewing point on every idea. And your right about the commiserating <img src='http://freelanceswitch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  While a little wenting is ok, that&#8217;s exactly the reason I encourage people to make an agenda and set an exact time frame for the meetings.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha Retallick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha Retallick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve done the sparring circle thing, and I don&#039;t do it anymore. Why not? A couple of reasons:

1. It takes time away from more important things like contacting potential clients and staying in touch with the best of my existing clients. While it&#039;s nice to have a a caring circle of other freelancers, they&#039;re not going to keep me in business the way paying clients will.

2. They can turn into commiseration sessions in a hurry. While it&#039;s nice to let off steam once in a while, it&#039;s better that this doesn&#039;t turn into a major life activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve done the sparring circle thing, and I don&#8217;t do it anymore. Why not? A couple of reasons:</p>
<p>1. It takes time away from more important things like contacting potential clients and staying in touch with the best of my existing clients. While it&#8217;s nice to have a a caring circle of other freelancers, they&#8217;re not going to keep me in business the way paying clients will.</p>
<p>2. They can turn into commiseration sessions in a hurry. While it&#8217;s nice to let off steam once in a while, it&#8217;s better that this doesn&#8217;t turn into a major life activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Norton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. Especially like the point about not making the group too big.

@sean - nice work spotting the missing header tags. I had to take a second peek after seeing your comment before noticing. You&#039;re a quick one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. Especially like the point about not making the group too big.</p>
<p>@sean &#8211; nice work spotting the missing header tags. I had to take a second peek after seeing your comment before noticing. You&#8217;re a quick one!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moniz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Moniz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a wonderful idea. I have been working with a group for months now on getting them further in their careers. I noticed how having them in a group helped everyone move forward more often and the support was great. I could have kept all my contacts to myself but it was so much easier to share all at once together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a wonderful idea. I have been working with a group for months now on getting them further in their careers. I noticed how having them in a group helped everyone move forward more often and the support was great. I could have kept all my contacts to myself but it was so much easier to share all at once together.</p>
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		<title>By: Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is just what I am doing. Online of course ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is just what I am doing. Online of course <img src='http://freelanceswitch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rene ..... competetion is only a phenomenon for those who believe that opportunity is limted...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rene &#8230;.. competetion is only a phenomenon for those who believe that opportunity is limted&#8230;</p>
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