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		<title>By: Kypros</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/working/the-nature-of-talent/#comment-9712</link>
		<dc:creator>Kypros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool!</description>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/working/the-nature-of-talent/#comment-9189</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working at agencies for almost 20 years, I have come to the conclusion that there are a lot of skillful stylists that copy someone else's technique just to get the job done. There are a lot of "talented copycats" out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working at agencies for almost 20 years, I have come to the conclusion that there are a lot of skillful stylists that copy someone else&#8217;s technique just to get the job done. There are a lot of &#8220;talented copycats&#8221; out there.</p>
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		<title>By: George Coghill</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/working/the-nature-of-talent/#comment-8059</link>
		<dc:creator>George Coghill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree with the sentiments both in the article and in the comments. I think there is a balance in every creative person between skills – which I feel are techniques that can be learned, and talent – which is a nebulous "something", innate to varying degrees, but also something that is cultivated through work and experience.

My experience growing up was similar to the author's, and that "raw talent" was something I learned to focus many years later. "Talent" is often something seen by other as natural or spontaneous, when in reality it's the result of years of passion, dedication and focus towards improvement.

Often times if someone has the impression "That piece only took you "X" hours to draw", I tell them yes, but it took me 30+ years to be able to draw a piece in "X" hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree with the sentiments both in the article and in the comments. I think there is a balance in every creative person between skills – which I feel are techniques that can be learned, and talent – which is a nebulous &#8220;something&#8221;, innate to varying degrees, but also something that is cultivated through work and experience.</p>
<p>My experience growing up was similar to the author&#8217;s, and that &#8220;raw talent&#8221; was something I learned to focus many years later. &#8220;Talent&#8221; is often something seen by other as natural or spontaneous, when in reality it&#8217;s the result of years of passion, dedication and focus towards improvement.</p>
<p>Often times if someone has the impression &#8220;That piece only took you &#8220;X&#8221; hours to draw&#8221;, I tell them yes, but it took me 30+ years to be able to draw a piece in &#8220;X&#8221; hours.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Pearlman</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/working/the-nature-of-talent/#comment-8036</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Pearlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 05:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gallup wrote a book called “First, Break All the Rules: What the World’s Greatest Managers Do Differently“, which studies the question of what great managers do to build their teams and how to select the right people for each position. At the heart of the book was a concept that separated ability into: knowledge, skills &#38; talents, which are distinct elements of a person’s performance. The difference? Skills and knowledge can easily be taught, talents cannot.

We wrote a blog on how to apply this understanding to building a team and to your own success: 
&lt;a href="http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2007/07/21/talent-vs-skill/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Building Loyalty through Success: Talent Vs. Skill&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gallup wrote a book called “First, Break All the Rules: What the World’s Greatest Managers Do Differently“, which studies the question of what great managers do to build their teams and how to select the right people for each position. At the heart of the book was a concept that separated ability into: knowledge, skills &amp; talents, which are distinct elements of a person’s performance. The difference? Skills and knowledge can easily be taught, talents cannot.</p>
<p>We wrote a blog on how to apply this understanding to building a team and to your own success:<br />
<a href="http://blog.shaneandpeter.com/2007/07/21/talent-vs-skill/" rel="nofollow">Building Loyalty through Success: Talent Vs. Skill</a></p>
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		<title>By: Talent is work, art is work</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talent is work, art is work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!I&#8217;ve just read a nice post about the nature of talent at freelanceswitch.com. The word &#8220;talent&#8221; is used quite often and is sometimes being tossed around freely. Now [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!I&#8217;ve just read a nice post about the nature of talent at freelanceswitch.com. The word &#8220;talent&#8221; is used quite often and is sometimes being tossed around freely. Now [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Yann</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/working/the-nature-of-talent/#comment-7970</link>
		<dc:creator>Yann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then, once in a while, you meet someone who's clearly not working very hard but is just a border line genius at what he/she's doing. I've met a couple of those before and it's a little depressing when you're in the 10 meter radius... But once you get home, it gets you all motivated to work even harder ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then, once in a while, you meet someone who&#8217;s clearly not working very hard but is just a border line genius at what he/she&#8217;s doing. I&#8217;ve met a couple of those before and it&#8217;s a little depressing when you&#8217;re in the 10 meter radius&#8230; But once you get home, it gets you all motivated to work even harder <img src='http://freelanceswitch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: chiropetra</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/working/the-nature-of-talent/#comment-7957</link>
		<dc:creator>chiropetra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However you define it, talent is one of the most vastly over-rated traits in the world today.

There are a lot of people with the talent to write. There are very, very few who are willing to put in the hard, agonizing work necessary to do so.

Granted, almost anything -- from writing to playing the Andean Nose Flute -- probably comes easier to some people than others. And that's not a bad definition of talent.

But talent without work and application means absolutely nothing at all. I say that as someone who's made a living as a free-lance writer for the last 25 years.

It's instructive to look at the documented differences between Asian and American students in this regard. Americans believe in talent, Asians (Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Taiwanese, etc.) believe in work. When American students fail at something they tend to think it's because they don't have the talent. The Asians typically think they didn't work hard enough and redouble their efforts. Guess who's more likely to succeed.

Yes, aptitude is worth something. But not nearly as much as we like to think. Your friend the 'talented' database programmer is highly unlikely to have been successful simply because he has innate talent. He got to where he is by working long and hard at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However you define it, talent is one of the most vastly over-rated traits in the world today.</p>
<p>There are a lot of people with the talent to write. There are very, very few who are willing to put in the hard, agonizing work necessary to do so.</p>
<p>Granted, almost anything &#8212; from writing to playing the Andean Nose Flute &#8212; probably comes easier to some people than others. And that&#8217;s not a bad definition of talent.</p>
<p>But talent without work and application means absolutely nothing at all. I say that as someone who&#8217;s made a living as a free-lance writer for the last 25 years.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s instructive to look at the documented differences between Asian and American students in this regard. Americans believe in talent, Asians (Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Taiwanese, etc.) believe in work. When American students fail at something they tend to think it&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t have the talent. The Asians typically think they didn&#8217;t work hard enough and redouble their efforts. Guess who&#8217;s more likely to succeed.</p>
<p>Yes, aptitude is worth something. But not nearly as much as we like to think. Your friend the &#8216;talented&#8217; database programmer is highly unlikely to have been successful simply because he has innate talent. He got to where he is by working long and hard at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Talent is Hard Work - Rikcat Industries : The Portfolio of Rik Catlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talent is Hard Work - Rikcat Industries : The Portfolio of Rik Catlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I just read this article called &#8220;The Nature of Talent&#8221; over at Freelance Switch and I couldn&#8217;t agree more with its author. I&#8217;ve been [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I just read this article called &#8220;The Nature of Talent&#8221; over at Freelance Switch and I couldn&#8217;t agree more with its author. I&#8217;ve been [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Spatucci</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/working/the-nature-of-talent/#comment-7945</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Spatucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you're saying, Devin - when people use the term "talent" as a general compliment to creative professionals, often they're just saying "I like your work" - but sometimes they're saying that they believe your work didn't take effort so much as divine intervention, and that's what I have a problem with.  

Sure, if someone says "you're so talented," you probably won't have a sense of what they really mean unless you ask them to explain themselves, which can be awkward.  But creativity is very mysterious to those who don't employ it primarily in their jobs, and I have had many experiences where it's been spelled out to me that I'm fortunate not to have to actually work like everyone else does - design just pours out of me. That stings.

This is why I try to never let a client or potential client see me actually working on a design project - not even simple text edits or color changes, if possible.  When that happens, they see technical skills at work, and the creative sensibility behind them remains transparent.

Louisa, I like your approach - I do believe everyone has a ton of unused creativity.  Maybe acknowledging it helps increase understanding across the board.  I did buy Art is Work - let me know if you review it, and I'll let you know my feedback, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you&#8217;re saying, Devin - when people use the term &#8220;talent&#8221; as a general compliment to creative professionals, often they&#8217;re just saying &#8220;I like your work&#8221; - but sometimes they&#8217;re saying that they believe your work didn&#8217;t take effort so much as divine intervention, and that&#8217;s what I have a problem with.  </p>
<p>Sure, if someone says &#8220;you&#8217;re so talented,&#8221; you probably won&#8217;t have a sense of what they really mean unless you ask them to explain themselves, which can be awkward.  But creativity is very mysterious to those who don&#8217;t employ it primarily in their jobs, and I have had many experiences where it&#8217;s been spelled out to me that I&#8217;m fortunate not to have to actually work like everyone else does - design just pours out of me. That stings.</p>
<p>This is why I try to never let a client or potential client see me actually working on a design project - not even simple text edits or color changes, if possible.  When that happens, they see technical skills at work, and the creative sensibility behind them remains transparent.</p>
<p>Louisa, I like your approach - I do believe everyone has a ton of unused creativity.  Maybe acknowledging it helps increase understanding across the board.  I did buy Art is Work - let me know if you review it, and I&#8217;ll let you know my feedback, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Terry</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/working/the-nature-of-talent/#comment-7941</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article.  I've wondered about this sort of thing as well.  The hard part is, once you've figured out the true meaning of talent then the next question is what causes that talent.  This would be a great topic on the radio show called Radio Lab.  If you all haven't listened to it I highly recommend you check out the podcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article.  I&#8217;ve wondered about this sort of thing as well.  The hard part is, once you&#8217;ve figured out the true meaning of talent then the next question is what causes that talent.  This would be a great topic on the radio show called Radio Lab.  If you all haven&#8217;t listened to it I highly recommend you check out the podcast.</p>
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