Review: Remember the Milk



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In this new age of web apps, the web-based to-do list manager has pretty much become a punch-line among developers. That said, today I’d like to talk about one I feel stands apart: Remember the Milk.

It was a little less than a year ago when I started looking for ways to use my computer to organize my life. It began with using a spreadsheet for the monthly budget and soon, I wanted something for handling the to-do list.

I researched the many, many options available and decided to give Remember the Milk a shot (probably because it seemed so quirky compared to the stiffness I felt looking at the others.)

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The basics

When you first sign-up, you’re presented with four lists to put tasks in: Work, Personal, Inbox and Sent. The first two are self-explanatory, whereas Inbox is where tasks that you e-mail to yourself go before you categorize them. Sent is for tasks you delegated to other RTM users. A nice and clean organization system, in my opinion. You can also add your own lists (I keep a separate one for Articles and will also give larger features with a lot of interviews to conduct their own list.)

When I start using Remember the Milk, it was already pretty feature packed: A nice Ajax interface (complete with keyboard shot cuts), text-message and e-mail reminders of due dates and mobile access for any web-enable cell phone.

The latter part was a big selling point for me. In my first week of using RTM, I put in a “Mail package” task and in the notes section, typed in the address. Next day while at the post office, I just had to pull out my cell phone to see the address, mail the package and then mark the task completed.

Updated features

This was a while ago. Since then, the Australian development team (which apparently includes a stuffed monkey) have added many more including one killer feature I’ll address briefly.

Integration with Google Calendar was added, which fixes GCal’s sad lack of task list. Once you add Remember the Milk to Google Calendar, you get a blue check-mark above all the dates. Clicking on this pulls up a list of tasks for that day, plus a spot to add new ones directly.

Then the ability to add tasks via Twitter was added. Though, I’ll admit I haven’t really played with this feature.

However, the feature that really pushes Remember the Milk over the top came in early December when they released a Firefox extension that adds a to-do list directly to Gmail. For me, who always has Gmail open in a separate tab this was amazing.

The extension (powered by Greasemonkey) adds a task box that looks like any other part of Gmail keeping your tasks in front of you with your e-mail, essentially turning Google’s web interface into Outlook.

Gettings Things Done

For fans of David Allen’s Getting Things Done methodology, implementation in Remember the Milk is pretty simple. Create a separate list for each project and add the actions to it. The tagging feature allows you to add the contexts like @computer and @phone. Plus, the Sent list is already there for delegated tasks.

Premium features

Everything I’ve talked about so far is available for free, but there is a premium membership available for $25 per year. Right now the only premium features are an iPhone/iPod Touch specific interface and syncing with Windows Mobile PDAs.

Right now I’m a free member, but I’ll upgrade the second they add syncing to my Blackberry’s task list.

Criticisms

I know, I’ve pretty much been raving so far, but nothing is perfect, so here are a few areas I feel Remember the Milks falls short.

First off, the mobile interface I mentioned earlier is a little on the clunky side when used on a regular WAP cell phone. You have to click through too many pages to do anything, which is not cool when your cell phone provider chargers you per page downloaded. It is much better on my PDA, which can handle drop-down menus properly.

While I adore the Gmail task list, it was really buggy when it was released. They got fixed quickly but there’s one thing I find very annoying. If you hide the box, the arrow you need to click on to make it re-appear is tiny. Even after asking on the forum why my task list had disappeared and being told to look for the arrow, it took me a while to find it.

Finally, I don’t like the counter that shows how often I’ve postponed a task. It looks like a “slack-o-meter”, there to taunt me and remind me that I’m procrastinating. But I think that complaint is probably unique to me.

Conclusion

Out of all the web-apps I’ve tinkered with in the past year, Remember the Milk is the only one that’s really stuck (assuming you don’t count web-based e-mail.) It’s also the only method of task management that’s really become ingrained in my routine.

Admittedly, when I first signed-up, I used it off and on but now that it’s in my face all the time thanks to the Gmail extension, it gets used pretty much everyday…even if it the daily use is only postponing actions.

PG

Robert Janelle is a ragged video game-addicted journalist in Canada with an affinity for all things paisley. Described as being rather loud and skittish, he generally can be found consuming caffeine in large doses, organizing (or re-organizing) things and playing with two annoying (but adorable) kittens.


  1. PG Ryan Allen

    I’ve used it briefly and it seems like a very well executed product. One of the founders was Young Australian of the Year too a few years back :)

    1. PG Rob

      That’s cool. I didn’t know the founder was Australian of the Year. I love remember the milk, I also really like http://BetterYoo.com — Both really great reminder services.

  2. PG Thursday

    Oh man, I don’t know what I’d do without RTM! I use it for managing all of my freelance work, keeping track on personal projects and even listing out household chores. Integration with Gmail just kicked RTM up to 11.

  3. PG Paul Ocal

    I love the picture.

  4. PG Mark Abucayon

    This is the first thing I do when I wake up in the morning, drinking my milk- and of course I drink it in night too. That was a nice article many thanks.

  5. I so need this. I’ve tested tons of task managers (but not this one) and thought I’d managed to work out a great system with Google Calendar to schedule my day, but a task list was definitely lacking. When you mentioned GC integration, I was pinging Harry on IM.

    “Yes. You need this,” he informed me. Done deal. Thanks!

  6. PG Benjamin Bradley

    I also love how RTM integrates so nicely with Gmail. But the one webapp I could NEVER live without and I’d be lost without is Todoist (www.todoist.com).

  7. PG Christopher Humphries

    I don’t like how this product was pimped instead of so many other GTD applications. There are so many out there and this one doesn’t really shine through any of the others. I don’t see what’s so remarkable about it that warrants an article to all the thousands of subscribers.

    This seems like an advertisement written as an article. I’m disappointed.

    1. PG Paul

      I understand how it looks like an advertisement, and hey, maybe it is, but I can attest to how great this product is. I’m a “creative” type person, so organization is not my strong suit. I’ve tried a ton of organizational stuff (web-based, local, etc.), but none kept my attention, all were too complicated, too many clicks, etc.

      RTM for whatever reason has stuck with me. My wife is astounded. In one entry line I can add task, day due, time due and tag it. I don’t have to click to several fields to add info (which was the downfall of everything else). Couple that with keyboard shortcuts (for example, I can hit “c” to clear a task, no clicking anything). I can hit a 1-4 and it will prioritize, and it bolds tasks due today, underlines tasks overdue. I can create smart searches that form tabs on the top that give me lists (my current lists are: work, personal, bills, projects). This is all via tags– much better than folders, because they are flexible and nimble. The inbox feature is great.

      Right now it sends reminders via email and text, and I can check it free through Astrid Tasks app (Android) and add tasks via email or Astrid.

      So for me, it’s the only one that’s worked. It’s the simplicity of it that makes it work for me. Too much complication, too much clutter and it just becomes another multi-tasking operation– and I’m lousy at that.

      Anyway, I’m just a normal guy out here, I don’t do reviews or anything. Shazzam, I don’t even have a facebook account. But I guess I wanted to defend the review because I find it to be such a legit service.

      Hope that helps. In essence, RTM really does “shine through” for me.

  8. PG Ravi Udeshi

    @Christopher:
    Speaking as someone who just uses a .txt file as his to-do list, I think it’s pretty easy to figure out why FS chose to review RTM: it’s, bar none, the best one out there. I’ve dallied with every single GTD web app there is, and RTM stood head-and-shoulders above the rest in terms of feature and functionality — if I wasn’t so smitten with simple txt files, I’d definitely be using RTM.

  9. PG riki

    The design of the site reminds me a bit of Campaign Monitor site http://www.campaignmonitor.com/ I think CM looks better though.

  10. PG Tammy Hart

    I prefer my backpack from 37signals.com, this seems to silly to be taken seriously.

  11. PG hieu

    yeah i’m trying it, i love the sign form, very intuitive.
    layout is beautifully simple also.

    let see how this guy’s gonna keep me coming back ;)

  12. PG orangeguru

    I really wonder for whom this ‘review’ is suitable? No real comparison to other products, list of features or recommendations for whom it’s suitable. Personally I think that RTM ignores one of the biggest markets: Outlook user, who would greatly benefit from a plugin (just like Plaxo and Yahoo Sync offer such sync tools).

  13. PG AaronKeuper

    I agree with Christopher H.
    If you’re using GCAL to run your business, something is wrong – it’s just not set up for that.

    I hear the new Apple Mail with Leopard has this all built in, for those of us with Mac.

    Other than that, if you’re on Windows…. and not using Outlook? I just can’t understand that.

    MS OUTLOOK is the best PIM ever created, regardless of what you think about Microsoft and if a Comparable version was available for Mac, I’d be using that instead of Apple Mail + Apple Calendar (I don’t have Leopard yet).

  14. PG Thomas Allen

    I agree with Mr. Humphries. There are a million good tools out there, and at least a comparison review of online To Do lists would be better.

    And just for my own endorsement, On The Job (for Mac OS X) is really great.

  15. PG BlueSquares

    I use this as well. One thing I like in particular, is the ability to publish your list. This means you can let clients see your progress in real time on your projects. In my case, I work from home and freelance on the side. I set up a list for my employer to see their projects and my status on them. Result: Less calls to see “where I’m at” and more information in the palm of their hands. Win-Win.

    Thanks RTM.

  16. PG Michelle

    As someone about to start shopping around for a task list management solution, I second the request for a comparison article :)

  17. PG jcorn

    In spite of comments about this being an “advertisement” I found this interesting and worth a look. Thanks!

  18. PG Thomas Allen

    Reading my above comment, it seems that I’m recommending On The Job as a to do list software…it’s actually for time-tracking and invoicing, but I mentioned it just because it’s that cool. Anyway, onward.

  19. PG Zath

    I’ve been meaning to try this out for months now, but it sounds like it’s improving all the time – the Windows Mobile syncing would be good for me, I just hope that it works on smartphones as well as PDAs, if it does then it might be worth paying for to replace my current usage of Outlook Task List which obviously isn’t integrated into my GMail interface and is the only reason I load up Outlook these days!

    Good review, thanks!

  20. PG Robert Carter

    I couldn’t live without RTM!

  21. PG ross

    Im trying to find a decent program, ive been using a few but theres always came a time where one has just let me down and ive had to find another. im trying to find a decent task manager to work on a public and private section for a few other freelancers i work with to organise out projects that come in, finished as well as the lovely countless changes received which is the main problem, so really i want a program to allow the client to make a list of the changes on their side of the program and label their importance so that i can easily deligate it and do what is needed.

    any suggestions?

  22. PG Ga` bay

    Greats. Thanks !

  23. PG Gradualist

    I think this was a good little review of the RTM product. As a separate point, of course a comparison article would be a good idea too – maybe someone can volunteer? I’ve tried using various to do list apps and approaches over the last couple years, from a txt file through tadalist to iCal/Mail tasks. But I’m now very excited about the just launched Omnifocus, which is a task and project manager to out-do all others. With the GTD model at its core, it enables you to really stay on top of your game, managing a larger number of projects at one time. You can set due dates and review dates/frequency (one way to avoid the slack-o-meter Robert mentions because of the forever postponed task – just set it to be reviewed regularly if its low priority, instead of setting a deadline) and then view all tasks due or due for review. You can sync it with iCal and add tasks to it on the fly while using other apps via shortcuts or by email. It really deserves a full article in itself, which will come along just as soon as we’ve all had a chance to get to grips with it… the one drawback you could peg on it, is that it takes some time to understand how it all works. But with something so complex, this is justified. I find this app is like having a personal assistant – you tell them what your projects and deadlines are and they’ll keep track of them all for you. Sorry to go on to long about another app – but I just figured you want comparisons – well what are comments for then?!

  24. PG Propaganda Champ

    I am stuck. I recently started using RTM a couple of weeks ago and it is perfect because it sits right in my gmail but… Yesterday I finally set up my first Basecamp. For all the 37 signals fans out there, how does remember the milk stack up against their to-do-list app?

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  25. PG Zviki Cohen

    I’m also using OmniFocus. I started from RTM, moved to Vitalist and finished with OmniFocus.
    In my opinion, the main advantage of OmniFocus is the ability to create flexible outlines. In RTM you have projects with tasks. I prefer to be able to create tasks and then break them down to smaller and smaller tasks. It has many more advantages. If you’re a productivity freak and you’re using a Mac, you should check it out. And if you’re not using a Mac… you should check it out :-) .

  26. PG Sean Hodge

    I’ve gotten really attached to a mac program called Things. http://www.culturedcode.com/things/

    I work at my desk. I don’t have a pda, cell phone, or a seperate cpu and therefore I don’t have a need for something web based. Thanks for the review though.

  27. PG Eliffio

    As Thursday and Robert Carter, I couldn´t leave without RTM. I use it to organize my entire LIFE. From freelance work, to personal stuff.

    In fact, some time ago I had a nightmare where RTM goes down and looses all it´s data…oh god…I think I would be dead if that happenned!!

  28. PG blogophob

    Hi,

    what’s with the simple and old pen & paper as a to-do-list. online apps are really cool but what happens if the site is down or you don’t have access to a computer?

  29. PG Alan Smith

    Remember the milk is great, but we’ve recently had to switch to Basecamp.

    I run a two partner multiple associate studio, with about 10-15 projects on the go at one time, and Remember the Milk served us fantastically for about a year. I highly recommend it & it’s shared lists, smart lists, and tagging to anyone working alone and with a couple of clients.

    I can tell you for certain though, that once you get past about 5 projects plus everyday stuff, it’s not quite robust enough to handle the to-do’s for a company rather than a person.

    Regardless, we bought the pro version before we switched just to support the guys who made it because they kept us organized for so long!

  30. PG nXqd

    I’m a student and notebook todo list works better. But RTM is the nice product . I sync between them everyday, but I prefer notebook, it’s really good for note taking, and create todo list :) It’s really flexible

  31. PG cosmicrepairdude

    Here’s why I think RTM sucks: it’s unreliable. After deciding I needed a weekly reminder, I decided to compare RTM and PingMe around 6 months ago. I set up 2 repeating tasks on each, my regular Thursday task and a daily reminder that would indicate to me whether the services were reliable and trustworthy. PingMe has worked flawlessly. RTM stopped sending me the daily reminder after 4 days. Their weekly reminder continued to work, though, until a couple weeks ago when it suddenly stopped. When I tried to get help from RTM, all I got was a BS automated response, no actual help or acknowledgment of a problem. When I had a problem with PingMe’s interface, they responded to my query with help, an apology, and thanks for pointing out their instructions had been unclear.

  32. PG Dave Thomas

    Remember the Milk is not intuitive, has poor instructions, and is a nightmare to navigate.. You can’t even enter a task on the home page. It is definitely not a simple to do list. Too inaccessible to replace the task feature in Outlook, which is easier to use.

  33. PG harry

    thanks for the nice review.

    You may want to check out http://www.GoalsOnTrack.com, a very nicely built web app designed for tracking goals and todo lists, and supports time tracking too. It’s clear, focused, easy to navigate, worth a try.

  34. PG Mark Loess

    Based on this rave review, I tried out RTM, and I find it very disappointing and confusing. The Help materials are junky–basically assume you already know how the site works and just need a few bits of clarification. But there are a bunch of basic concepts here that are referred to, but not explained on the website. There should be an introduction which explains how the site construes a task (sure, it’s something to be done–but is it something to be done on a certain date? or something to be done ASAP? or what?), and the INbox (how is the Inbox a category of task?). The FAQ doesn’t even say how (or if) I can delete these basic built-in categories “Work”, “Study” (we’re all kids in school, are we?), and “Personal”. Yech, it seems like software for which they never even did the basic usability stuff of getting completely naive users and seeing how they get confused, and fixing it up.

    RTM, good riddance. So what are some of the alternatives that you rejected? I am thinking I might want to try one of them instead.

    Mark

  35. PG cosmicrepairdude

    Mark, read my comment, 3 above yours. PingMe is reliable if it does all you want.

  36. PG willemijns

    http://www.willemijns.com/reminden.htm list all of these competitors ;)

  37. PG serge

    i’ve been using it with android for quite awhile and have just started using the web section. lately its been buggy. I’ve tried going to their support section or forums and it won’t even load! are they still in business?

  38. PG Akiko Tanaka

    I just switched to the new version of Projecturf that launched this month. It’s super affordable and all plans come with all features. Unlike other planning software, the cost of using Projecturf 2.0 won’t increase with add-ons. It has Mac-inspired design – so you can get up and running in under 10 minutes without being frustrated. Allows freelancers to present work to clients and let them review, comment on, rate and approve – all in one place. Also offers digital signatures on designs and documents to allow online approval as well as accurate records of client approvals. It has a super cool time card section for easy billing. Plus it’s really inexpensive with every feature included unlike Basecamp.

  39. PG cosmicrepairdude

    You can read my comments above about why I think you should not use RTM and many others have given it bad reviews.

    Unfortunately, PingMe is now dead. Depending on what you need a service like this to do, there are several reliable alternatives. Here are a few that you can check out: airset.com , myemailreminders.com , mymemorizer.com , zoho.com . springpadit.com had some problems, but they seem to be fixed. Another I have heard good things about but have not tried is 30boxes.com .

  40. PG Judi

    Has anyone compared Remember the Milk to Wunderlist? This is so shallow, but I’m resisting Remember the Milk because I hate the name. Wunderlist syncs my lists, but is a complete rip-off–including logo–of Things. Still, it is a gorgeous application; however, I’m a teacher, and my school is recommending Remember the Milk and only opening up its servers to RTM and nothing else.
    Thanks for your input

  41. PG Bee

    Trying out RTM at the moment, purely as a motivational housework tasklist. I use Outlook at work, but don’t find it adequate for household stuff. I’m probably one of those naive easily confused users, but so far find it pretty simple and intuitive. Found the thingy to add extra lists easily enough. One thing it took me a while to come across was the word “after” instead of “every” to make it repeat tasks a set period after you’ve done them rather than after you were supposed to do them.

  42. PG cosmicrepairdude

    3 posts ago, I recommended myemailremindrs.com. I’m withdrawing that now since they have failed to send me reminders several times now. The other ones I mentioned using are all still good.

  43. PG willemijns

    on my internal list, i have only kept AIRSET‎, BUSINESSITONLINE‎, MYMEMORIZER‎ and SITEFOUNDRY‎…

  44. PG Julie
    1. PG willemijns

      Hello julie,

      will be tested in a few days ;) tks

  45. PG Sandra

    While RTM might be useful in some aspects, I’ve found a new task management program called Dooster.net that is much more user-friendly, with a mobile app, Google calendar integration and much more.

    I see someone above mentioned it – has it been tested yet?

  46. PG michelle

    I’ve been using RTM for about a year (though still afraid to give up my pen and paper). I started liking it better when i just let it do its thing and kind of figured out how it is designed to work. The reminders are very accurate if you set the task up right, and i like how it integrates with ical for mac. I use basecamp and backpack for project management, to store info and tasks for specific projects but i use RTM for basic work and personal to do stuff.

    I, too, hate the way repeating tasks stick around every day. I also would love a better way to organize what’s do “today” only, and a better/more granular way of prioritizing tasks, even within the numbering system and due date.

  47. PG PB

    I’ve settled on using Remember The Milk – with a paid subscription.

    I think the $25 per year is rather steep, but given that a task manager is used most often probably only second to my email software, then $25 per year is worth it.

    Why do I pay the $25?

    1> Flawless syncing across multiple platforms. Fast. Perfect. No glitches.

    2> iPhone synching

    3> Web interface (in case your computer crashes, or you lose your iPhone – I am a business owner, and you can imagine my life flashing before me if my task list is suddenly wiped out. I cannot emphasise the benefit of having an online web interface to access my task list in case something happens to my computer or iPhone. This was a major selling point for me).

    Sure, there are lots of other reasons, but if the above work flawlessly, then that’s reason enough for me.

    It’s changed my life, at least in the todo area. I highly recommend it.

  48. PG Amir Masoud

    I have worked for a month on http://yourdatavisualizer.com/rtmstats/#slide1 to generate elegant reports from RTM tasks. Check it out! I hope you like it.

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