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		<title>By: LayerHater</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/freelance-freedom/freelance-freedom-31/#comment-13770</link>
		<dc:creator>LayerHater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, I just finished a one week project for a logo which had no name until the last 2 days of the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, I just finished a one week project for a logo which had no name until the last 2 days of the project.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmad Alfy</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/freelance-freedom/freelance-freedom-31/#comment-13623</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmad Alfy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happens alot!!

I designed like 5 websites for a guy who wanted to create just a dummy forms with no actions , no link , no anything ...

He didn&#039;t give me any information about what he want... All he said &quot;I want a contact form ... do the layout , the fields ... etc&quot;

Don&#039;t you hate that? When your clients leave everything up to you then come back and tell you to modify your work!? :s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happens alot!!</p>
<p>I designed like 5 websites for a guy who wanted to create just a dummy forms with no actions , no link , no anything &#8230;</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t give me any information about what he want&#8230; All he said &#8220;I want a contact form &#8230; do the layout , the fields &#8230; etc&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you hate that? When your clients leave everything up to you then come back and tell you to modify your work!? :s</p>
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		<title>By: Fazed Reality</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/freelance-freedom/freelance-freedom-31/#comment-13541</link>
		<dc:creator>Fazed Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a freelancer – but this happened to me on practically every little project I did for others. They want a site, but don’t know what they’d like it to look like – not the faintest idea! No logo, no photos, nothing… And absolutely the worst: they want ME to create THEIR content! :D I mean, I design an odd page from time to time, that’s it. Give me content and an idea or two, preferably with some color ideas and a photo or two and I can start…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a freelancer – but this happened to me on practically every little project I did for others. They want a site, but don’t know what they’d like it to look like – not the faintest idea! No logo, no photos, nothing… And absolutely the worst: they want ME to create THEIR content! <img src='http://freelanceswitch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I mean, I design an odd page from time to time, that’s it. Give me content and an idea or two, preferably with some color ideas and a photo or two and I can start…</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Abucayon</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/freelance-freedom/freelance-freedom-31/#comment-13490</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Abucayon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes this is very true to happen, they will ask you to create but not well documented. very true, 
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes this is very true to happen, they will ask you to create but not well documented. very true,<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Corby Simpson</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/freelance-freedom/freelance-freedom-31/#comment-13478</link>
		<dc:creator>Corby Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....     So so true...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.     So so true&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/freelance-freedom/freelance-freedom-31/#comment-13477</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sure I can do a basic template design. Unfortunately, I&#039;ll have to charge you double for it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sure I can do a basic template design. Unfortunately, I&#8217;ll have to charge you double for it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/freelance-freedom/freelance-freedom-31/#comment-13476</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe it or not, I&#039;ve had clients ask me to do that very same thing with software apps.

Client:  &quot;Can you just build it so that we can program the rest of it ourselves when we know more about how it should work?&quot;

Me:  &quot;Oh, so you have developers on staff?&quot;

Client:  &quot;No.&quot;

Me:  *seethes*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, I&#8217;ve had clients ask me to do that very same thing with software apps.</p>
<p>Client:  &#8220;Can you just build it so that we can program the rest of it ourselves when we know more about how it should work?&#8221;</p>
<p>Me:  &#8220;Oh, so you have developers on staff?&#8221;</p>
<p>Client:  &#8220;No.&#8221;</p>
<p>Me:  *seethes*</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://freelanceswitch.com/freelance-freedom/freelance-freedom-31/#comment-13474</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHA thats pretty funny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHA thats pretty funny!</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a client at the moment who is exactly like that. They have no set business plan and as a result don&#039;t know what services they want to offer, and have asked to release the site in stages depending on what they want to put in the copy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a client at the moment who is exactly like that. They have no set business plan and as a result don&#8217;t know what services they want to offer, and have asked to release the site in stages depending on what they want to put in the copy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Man, you freelancers have it good. At least you can tell you clients to go get.. yeah.&quot; - Marcin

Marcin, I do this at my current full-time job, and yet I am still surprised I am still working there. :P

But I do understand the situation, as I have experienced this both in my full-time job as well as with freelancing I do on the side. Sometimes I even preparing a couple template examples ahead of time, to give them enough to choose to build from. You just got to set in place a time where they will sign off on the design to move on to more important work, so you don&#039;t get delayed by them being &quot;not sure they like it&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Man, you freelancers have it good. At least you can tell you clients to go get.. yeah.&#8221; &#8211; Marcin</p>
<p>Marcin, I do this at my current full-time job, and yet I am still surprised I am still working there. <img src='http://freelanceswitch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But I do understand the situation, as I have experienced this both in my full-time job as well as with freelancing I do on the side. Sometimes I even preparing a couple template examples ahead of time, to give them enough to choose to build from. You just got to set in place a time where they will sign off on the design to move on to more important work, so you don&#8217;t get delayed by them being &#8220;not sure they like it&#8221;.</p>
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