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		<title>By: Dax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, this is my first comment in this website :D

First of all, excuse my poor English.

There's a lot of discussion about the 24/7 service. Jeffrey just wanted to offer an example of a better customer service. Maybe it is a good idea or maybe not. For me, to write down that you will be available 24/7 is not healthy, because someone may take it literally...even worst if it's written in a contract.

My question is: What happens if a client actually calls you at 4 a.m. or every time he or she has a new "design idea"? How do you deal with this kind of annoying client? Is there an article regarding this subject?

Thanks for the article, Jeffrey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, this is my first comment in this website <img src='http://freelanceswitch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>First of all, excuse my poor English.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of discussion about the 24/7 service. Jeffrey just wanted to offer an example of a better customer service. Maybe it is a good idea or maybe not. For me, to write down that you will be available 24/7 is not healthy, because someone may take it literally&#8230;even worst if it&#8217;s written in a contract.</p>
<p>My question is: What happens if a client actually calls you at 4 a.m. or every time he or she has a new &#8220;design idea&#8221;? How do you deal with this kind of annoying client? Is there an article regarding this subject?</p>
<p>Thanks for the article, Jeffrey!</p>
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		<title>By: Yacoroca@gmail.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yacoroca@gmail.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Dixyt and Vernon have got it. Being there alll the time, as a freelancer, also shows how much in need of a job you are. and when you promise 2+ clients this, calls can get simultaneous and hence you will have lied to someone. Also, you should not throw the phone down on your spouse, mother, friend, etc. whenever a client may or may not be calling. That's just rude. I'm guessing they won't always call from a number you recognize, hence every call means cutting whomever off.....even a potential new client during a meeting!

The recent post "8 things you should include in your terms of service agreement" goes into this. I'm all for different approaches, but seriously, the 24/7 part of this post seems clearly optimistic, rather than informed. It should, in contrast, present the possible and obvious setbacks of that approach, and hence point out a real scenario, not just the good bits, so as to pomote an informed decision, not a biased one.

http://freelanceswitch.com/clients/8-things-you-should-include-in-your-terms-of-service-agreement/

Other than that, I did like the read, very much, as it does point out one of our major issues (and good solutions) and objectives, "reeling in th big ones".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Dixyt and Vernon have got it. Being there alll the time, as a freelancer, also shows how much in need of a job you are. and when you promise 2+ clients this, calls can get simultaneous and hence you will have lied to someone. Also, you should not throw the phone down on your spouse, mother, friend, etc. whenever a client may or may not be calling. That&#8217;s just rude. I&#8217;m guessing they won&#8217;t always call from a number you recognize, hence every call means cutting whomever off&#8230;..even a potential new client during a meeting!</p>
<p>The recent post &#8220;8 things you should include in your terms of service agreement&#8221; goes into this. I&#8217;m all for different approaches, but seriously, the 24/7 part of this post seems clearly optimistic, rather than informed. It should, in contrast, present the possible and obvious setbacks of that approach, and hence point out a real scenario, not just the good bits, so as to pomote an informed decision, not a biased one.</p>
<p><a href="http://freelanceswitch.com/clients/8-things-you-should-include-in-your-terms-of-service-agreement/" rel="nofollow">http://freelanceswitch.com/clients/8-things-you-should-include-in-your-terms-of-service-agreement/</a></p>
<p>Other than that, I did like the read, very much, as it does point out one of our major issues (and good solutions) and objectives, &#8220;reeling in th big ones&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just landed my first corporate client, and here's what the project manager told me was his #1 Priority

"Communication. If you can't meet a suggested deadline on a new assignment, no sweat. Just talk to me and let me know so I can assign it to someone who can get it done"

He asked for responses within 24hours, and a 24 hr turn around on tiny little tasks. It's very apparent that the management likes having a pool of freelancers that can give them very speedy and high quality customer service, rather than dishing out $ for full time employees or dealing with a sluggish agency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just landed my first corporate client, and here&#8217;s what the project manager told me was his #1 Priority</p>
<p>&#8220;Communication. If you can&#8217;t meet a suggested deadline on a new assignment, no sweat. Just talk to me and let me know so I can assign it to someone who can get it done&#8221;</p>
<p>He asked for responses within 24hours, and a 24 hr turn around on tiny little tasks. It&#8217;s very apparent that the management likes having a pool of freelancers that can give them very speedy and high quality customer service, rather than dishing out $ for full time employees or dealing with a sluggish agency.</p>
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		<title>By: jasfy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasfy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen to them and tell the boss that their ideas sucks:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen to them and tell the boss that their ideas sucks:)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Way</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mcnuggets and @banago - Thanks...I agree completely. The fact is, you could be the best designer in the world....but if you're customer service skills suck (not returning emails/calls, etc), they won't work with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mcnuggets and @banago - Thanks&#8230;I agree completely. The fact is, you could be the best designer in the world&#8230;.but if you&#8217;re customer service skills suck (not returning emails/calls, etc), they won&#8217;t work with you.</p>
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		<title>By: BANAGO</title>
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		<dc:creator>BANAGO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Customer Service, very good point. Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Way</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Benek - I agree with you. ..And as we said in earlier comments, accepting phone calls in the middle of the night is more of a concept than a reality. 

The reason that I focused on the customer service aspect more than quality of the work is because, large and expensive design firms do exquisite work. It would be hard to gain an edge over them in at respect. 

But obviously, customer service is just one tool to work with. There are many ways to stand out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Benek - I agree with you. ..And as we said in earlier comments, accepting phone calls in the middle of the night is more of a concept than a reality. </p>
<p>The reason that I focused on the customer service aspect more than quality of the work is because, large and expensive design firms do exquisite work. It would be hard to gain an edge over them in at respect. </p>
<p>But obviously, customer service is just one tool to work with. There are many ways to stand out.</p>
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		<title>By: Benek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the point that reliability is key is very good. I personally wouldn't go as far as accepting phone calls in the middle of the night, but I do strive for excellent customer service. 

But, to be honest, I'd rather have the quality of my work stand out, and have that be the reason large clients are attracted to me. But of course it helps to stand out in as many aways as possible!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point that reliability is key is very good. I personally wouldn&#8217;t go as far as accepting phone calls in the middle of the night, but I do strive for excellent customer service. </p>
<p>But, to be honest, I&#8217;d rather have the quality of my work stand out, and have that be the reason large clients are attracted to me. But of course it helps to stand out in as many aways as possible!</p>
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		<title>By: mcnuggets</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcnuggets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I don't tell my clients to call me just for the hell of it throughout the night and day, I have had to work with clients at 4am and various other odd times because thats what you have to do when the job requires it. I have done work with Banks, Universities, and other businesses that required my assistance at odd hours so they wouldn't innconvience their customers and I assure that I am not desperate for work nor am I a sheep for doing so. 

When you are a freelancer or running in any other business, sometimes you have to do what you have to do to complete your task at hand. I agree with Jeff, because going that extra mile is how I was able to get my name passed along to high profile people in the first place.

Jeff, I think your article was good no matter what age or stage of the design/programming career that someone may be in... let people take what they will from it. Customer service is never a bad idea, Thanks for your efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I don&#8217;t tell my clients to call me just for the hell of it throughout the night and day, I have had to work with clients at 4am and various other odd times because thats what you have to do when the job requires it. I have done work with Banks, Universities, and other businesses that required my assistance at odd hours so they wouldn&#8217;t innconvience their customers and I assure that I am not desperate for work nor am I a sheep for doing so. </p>
<p>When you are a freelancer or running in any other business, sometimes you have to do what you have to do to complete your task at hand. I agree with Jeff, because going that extra mile is how I was able to get my name passed along to high profile people in the first place.</p>
<p>Jeff, I think your article was good no matter what age or stage of the design/programming career that someone may be in&#8230; let people take what they will from it. Customer service is never a bad idea, Thanks for your efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Kel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember Parkinson's law (and read the prime and also premier book 'The 4-Hour Workweek' by Timothy Ferriss: 80% of the [stuff you want] will come from 20% [of your clients].  Let the rest eat oats.  I think it's a great idea to advertise the 'I will be available to you anytime', but as soon as the client exercised the option, I'd strongly consider whether I wanted to keep them on the books -- so long as you can pay the bills, anyway.

Great article...  Speaking of customer service, who here has ever received poor service from Chick-fil-A?  It just never happens and I can't figure it out.  And so I keep gaining weight eating their classic chicken sandwich (but not on Sundays, of course, because they're closed on Sundays).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember Parkinson&#8217;s law (and read the prime and also premier book &#8216;The 4-Hour Workweek&#8217; by Timothy Ferriss: 80% of the [stuff you want] will come from 20% [of your clients].  Let the rest eat oats.  I think it&#8217;s a great idea to advertise the &#8216;I will be available to you anytime&#8217;, but as soon as the client exercised the option, I&#8217;d strongly consider whether I wanted to keep them on the books &#8212; so long as you can pay the bills, anyway.</p>
<p>Great article&#8230;  Speaking of customer service, who here has ever received poor service from Chick-fil-A?  It just never happens and I can&#8217;t figure it out.  And so I keep gaining weight eating their classic chicken sandwich (but not on Sundays, of course, because they&#8217;re closed on Sundays).</p>
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