How to Spot a Dud Client and Get Out While You Can



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I know how to spot a dud client. I spent far longer (read: years) working with one of them than I should’ve, before I wised up and realized that any money you receive from them is not worth it and likely to incur a loss — since that money will likely end up working you ten times harder than it’s worth, strip you of motivation, and is time better spent marketing your business to help you earn cash from more professional clients.

I’ve only had a few of these clients, and I don’t have one now and I haven’t had one for some time. That’s because once you learn to spot a dud, you can avoid them pretty easily. Unfortunately, many freelancers are caught in a cycle working with those dodgy clients on the bottom of the rungs and have just given up on thinking that freelancing is anything more than this. The idea of a client who pays well and on time, and doesn’t frazzle your mind with ridiculous requests and claims, is a mythical beast of ancient lore to them.

If you’re in this situation, you need to find a way out of the cycle, and the first step is learning to spot the rotten apples so you can make a change from the bad to the good — not just from the bad to more of the same. Likewise, even if you’ve only got one of these fellows on your client list, it’s equally important to move on and reinvest the time on better things.

1. Perpetually Late Payments

It’s totally normal to receive the odd late payment from a client. Sometimes bank transfers don’t work speedily to everyone’s advantage, or sometimes the money is caught in a bottleneck for a few days. But if you’ve got a client who is consistently late on an all-too-frequent basis, and is more than a few days late each time, you’ve got a problem. Professional clients pay on time, almost all of the time.

2. Constantly Trying to Haggle You Down Below Industry Standard Rates

It’s hard to say what an industry standard rate is in this hodge-podge, ad hoc method of working we call freelancing, but we all have some idea of where the line must be drawn. And it’s also fairly reasonable and expected for a client to try and talk you down a few dollars.

But here’s where it gets out of hand: the client takes you on board for a job and pays you for a project. The next time they want to use you — you were worth the money, after all — they try to take you down to criminally low pay levels. “It cost an arm and a leg last time, and I was hoping our good relationship would be a factor in this…”

Suddenly they want the mate’s rates, and not just any mate’s rates; the kind you’d give to your own grandmother (what’s that, free? $10?). In other cases, from the get-go they’ll be trying to get you down to $10 an article or weasel a $200 website from you. These are easier to shut the door on than existing clients, but still a pain in the rump.

3. Moving Targets

Ever feel like you’re getting close to the end of a project and the client suddenly changes the goalposts? They want twelve thousand words, not eight. They want a Flash game hidden inside the website as a “special interactivity user experience market penetration strategem.” (The scary part is, some marketing manager somewhere might actually call it that.)

There are clients who will try to redefine the whole project multiple times over its lifespan. There are those who will insist that you add to the project without extra pay. There are those who are just never happy with anything you do. Clients who move the goalposts are duds.

4. Clients Who Act Like Secret Agents

There are a million of these guys out there: the overly secretive client. The client whose every idea, every plan, every thought, every drop of perspiration is going to alter the world and revolutionize society and the ripples in humanity will be felt for the next thousand years. And so, to glean the wisdom that obviously shines from even the bottom of this client’s feet, we must sign an NDA and swear an oath of loyalty and secrecy.

Okay, I know there is a need for an NDA in many situations. I’ve used them myself, so I couldn’t say they were a bad idea if I wanted to. But that’s not the point in itself; there are companies who use NDAs to protect themselves. Then there are clients and companies for whom the copious NDA signing is a ritual in itself, a tangible representation of the paranoid and secretive corporate culture where that piece of paper is the most important bond people have between them. When clients are so secretive that they get in the way of your completion of the project, they are duds.

And, I must add, their ideas never end up starting that big revolution. Probably because nobody ever got the chance to hear about them!

5. A Bad Memory

Your client might not think they have a bad memory, but it certainly seems that way to you. Their version of events is always different, their recounting of some verbal agreement always swung further to their advantage than you’d have allowed, and their ability for catching you off-guard and getting you to agree to something verbally without realizing it is a strong one.

These manipulative clients use “their version of events” to wring what they want from you, even when their claims run contrary to the record of emails, phone calls and meetings.

A dud client has a memory that isn’t congruent with other General Elements of Reality.

6. They Can Do Your Job Better

When people hire a freelancer, it’s usually because they need a professional to do a job they can’t. Granted, there are times when a professional will contract another professional to take on excess work, but for the most part the client doesn’t have the same skillset as you.

Dud clients don’t seem to get what all the fuss is about, because they believe they know how to do your job better than you. They tell you how to go about things, what to change and where, and tell you how and why you’re wrong when you explain why their ideas aren’t good for them.

I knew a guy who would sit down in a meeting with one designer and one developer and they’d come up with a plan for a site. He’d call himself the site’s “designer” and ultimate creator, and claim that the designer and the developer were just part of the “assembly team.” That’s a classic case of a presumptuously arrogant client.

PG

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  1. PG Matthew Duerksen

    Great advice Joel!

    A lot of great things for me to keep in mind as I continue to gain new clients.

    Thank you!

    Matthew Duerksen

  2. PG David Cousens

    I once had a client that perpetually ticked boxes 1 and 2. The day when he accidentally let it slip that he intentionally holds off paying people he deals with was the last straw for me. The weird thing is, he seemed to think he was in the right!

  3. PG Paul Davis

    I think I’ve got a dud at the moment. They keep putting off payment, and I’m refusing to hand over the site until I receive it. Is that normal?

  4. PG Garro

    very nice article Joel :-)

  5. PG Adam

    Man, does this article speak to a world of truth!

    I’ve only been freelancing for a few months, but I guess it’s my luck that I have a client who falls under 1, 3, 4 AND 5…but it only took point 1 for me to hit the eject button. I am waiting for the remaining half of my money, and have already told him “see ya later!”

  6. PG Joel Falconer

    @Paul: Yes, that’s normal. Don’t hand it over, at least not without a remote killswitch. :)

  7. PG Paul Davis

    @Joel: That’s good to know. Its being hosted on my server anyway, I just wont give him the FTP details until I get the monies! =P

  8. PG Rewa

    Joel, this is a very nice article indeed. Directly to the point.
    Concerning your last point, “They can do your job better”, your right 100%.
    I faced the same thing, and eventually the duds seemed to believe that they Can Do My Job Better.

  9. PG Adrian Rodriguez

    Aweoms article. I have a client now who I am unfortunately doing a website for way too low of a price, but that is my fault. Anyway, she consistently contacts me late, and doesn’t provide content when I ask for it, I received my down payment, almost three weeks late and since then we probably get an email once every 3-4 days, occasionally two days in a row. Would this be considered a dud client? This project was supposed to take 7 days, and now has been stretched to over a month. I have a couple of prospects for some more jobs, shall I just go ahead and take those jobs since this client is just not on pace?

  10. PG Joel Falconer

    Adrian, please use your discretion as I don’t want to hurt your business (or be blamed for hurting your business, hehe) by giving bad advice, but based purely on the information you’ve provided, those who communicate poorly and pay weeks late are generally bad clients in the long run. I’m sure this is not always the case, but it has been proven for me time and time again. I suggest moving on if it continues, but you might want to confirm those other prospects first.

  11. PG Adrian Rodriguez

    Cool, thanks for the advice. I know that after this client I have been more careful with prospects in the future. This one was off of a website(not here lol), but my prospects and other clients are people who I have met/known for a while who live locally instead of far away. Again, thanks for the advice.

  12. PG Jdawg2k

    I would like to add my own.
    7. Clients who are hard to get a hold of

    I have this one client who we have sat down to discuss a website twice now. Both times were the “initial” meetings because they spanned about 6 months apart and the client forgot the details. Before I am able to get a contract signed, I can’t reach him. He doesn’t return my emails or calls but swears he wants the business…

  13. PG Clarice

    Hi Joel,

    Thanks for the article, it was highly entertaining, because there is so much truth in it! I’ve had experience with client #4, did not go down well. I had no idea they were that common. lol

  14. PG Jorge Diaz Tambley

    Good article, thank you

    I am a systems developer but we face the same problems, Now I have a number 1 type customer and one number 3.

    The market is full of number 6, they think everything is ‘easy’ and shouln’t take more than a couple of hours, don’t know why they hire you in the first place.

    regards

  15. PG Martha Retallick

    I’ve had all of the above. I’d also add to the list the abusive client. You know the type. He or she will call or e-mail at all hours of the day or night.

    Or you’ll be faced with an ever-growing list of things that HAVE to be done, along with endless complaints about why the project STILL isn’t finished. I had one of those last year. Client and I parted ways, and you know what? Their website still isn’t completely finished.

  16. I’ve certainly experienced #3. Great article, thanks!

  17. PG Trog

    I would add, the kind that:

    Changes your contract at the end of the project and refuses to pay you until you sign it, forcing you to haggle with the legal department for 8 months. I dropped them like a hot potato after that. And oh yes, they were a Fortune 500 company.

  18. PG Chris

    Luckily, with one client I was able to set up a per hour rate, which is great because he keeps changing his mind about what he needs which means more work for me.

    Anyway, I bill him two weeks at a time. So for the first 14 days of the month, I would send him an invoice on the 15th day. How long is it fair to expect payment after the 15th? I pretty much stopped working for him on the 27th, and only responded to his emails with requests for my money. Does this time frame make sense?

  19. PG author

    Good tips. #2 is classic for me. I was talked into lowering the price slightly on each project each time with a guilt trip (business is slow, I’m working 2 jobs to get this out, etc..). The last project I realized was trying hopelessly to fit a full page of text on a postcard while only billing a small fraction of what I originally billed. Cut them loose last week. Lesson learned – Often times, if cheap/desperate clients skimp on budget, they’ll skimp all the way around with cheap images, cheap print, fitting a 2 pages of text into a 5×7 card. The list goes one.

    Thanks for the heads up!

  20. PG acedab

    I hate such clients and i feel sad for my self that i have one.
    You need to be careful of these points if 2-3 of the above points match with the personality of your client try and run away from them. You might not realize, but they take hell lot of your productive time which otherwise would have been used for some creative sessions.

  21. PG Neil

    *electrifies goal posts*

  22. PG Joe

    It’s almost a right of passage to have a bad client, since I started doing websites I’ve have two bad experiences and wised up. The first was a client that took a year to pay and the other never paid for an upgrade. I used this as an example and it works, anyone that ever so slightly displays any sign of those two clients are gone like the wind. I have three good clients and sometimes I feel I don;t need another but economics say I do. Good article

  23. PG Richard Eichele

    Perfect article, all of it is true and those people are out there, I have actually had to killswitch a site for one, they haven’t found a new designer and the page the guy is trying to build himself looks terrible!. :) so…many weeks wasted althou

  24. PG James Tryon

    Not to say firing a client is ever a good thing, but when you finally get ride of them, You will get the best nights sleep that you have had in a vary long time. When you look out side the sun is a little brighter. It helps you realize who you are and why we do this stuff.

  25. PG Tina Thompson

    Cool site, loved the info and I will continue to check back for updates.

  26. PG Gamaliel

    I’ve had the same problem: A client hired me to design an e-commerce website, and right from the start it was yelling a dud client, but I decided to go with it hoping to turn it around, BIG MISTAKE!. This project was meant to take 3 weeks or less (tops) but in the end it’s goin to be a year now (can you friggin believe this?!). The problem started with the client being the brother of my former boss (when I had cubicle) and so he went straight ahead for the “mates” rate, and even though I already leveled down my rate and proposed a set of tasks, he did what a dud client does, and decided to propose an even lower rate and another set of tasks. After thinking it a bit, I said “why not?, it doesnt seem like much of a big deal, I can do this”. another BIG MISTAKE!. After I finished what I said I was goin to do with the website, he decided to add one thing after the other (and he actually asked me to do some Flash ads, nearly like you said in your article). Eventually I left the website as it was, fully functional, but I left his new requirements off of it. I was expecting some email from him, but since he’s a dud client, and used to keep me waiting for weeks for an answer, I haven’t heard from him in a while. Im actually worried of how this may affect my future gigs,
    any suggestion?

  27. PG Sean

    I’ve got a dud, right now. I thought I got rid of him, but he keeps coming back. Anyhow I’ve got him to agree that he must respond to all emails within 48 hours or the project is off. Prior to this I had to wait 2-3 weeks.

  28. PG Neil B

    Dud clients……you hit the nail on the head! I have had my fair share of them, I’ve even gone as far as to get debt collectors after them! But now I have the system of 50% up front and 50% on completion no exceptions! I make sure everything is in e-mail, if there is a discussion on the phone or a meeting I make the client send me the list of requirements asked for or it’s not done, of course I charge for this if this is added to the initial brief. It is a solid way of getting everything in writing so when they come back and say “that’s not what I wanted” rubbish you can just forward the e-mail and wait for the “oh….nevermind, it’s fine the way it is”. :-)

    If you make them pay for everything you will see a shorter list I can assure you! I feel it creates a better professional working relationship and eliminates dud clients.

  29. PG Ashish

    Thanks Joel!

    In the beginning its always a challenge, may be I would we don’ have choice. Once established as a freelancer these things are to be carefully watched for.

    Thanks again for this wonderful article.

  30. PG iSk

    Mmm…. thanks Joel for this nice article…
    I had ‘bumped’ myself with this duds myself… Twice…
    And still on with one… Right now… One of the type that is ‘So hard to get the payment’ from…
    Even though their work is done…
    But still, as a freelancer we shouldn’t take our clients as our foe..
    That is why in my Terms and Conditions i state that
    “No single client may carry an account balance exceeding RM500 for progress payment. Any client carrying such a balance must pay a partial payment to bring their account under the RM500 outstanding limit. Failure to do so will suspend all work in progress till such settlement is paid.”…

    and before that statement…
    “The client must agree in advance that any initial design work that he or she rejects at the outset with intent to cease the project must be compensated to ainiyaah Web Design Solutions at no less than 33.33% of all cost of the whole basic project.”.. but still this happens…

    Hm… Still learning though…

  31. PG Gary

    I have encountered numbers 1, 2 and 3 all too often. As a slight variation on #3 there is the client who demands that everything be built immediately, but then takes months to review and approve the work.

    I agree completely with dumping clients like this. I used to believe that “the client is always right” but now I believe that no matter who pays the bills and who does the work, there are acceptable standards of behavior that should be adhered to.

  32. PG Vanessa

    Great article Joel, after doing this for over a decade I agree with you on all points. There are also clues in the beginning of the process – if you are pitching someone and they think your rate is too high then move on, best advice, don’t waste time on duds!

  33. PG Kate

    I’ve had a few clients start out great and end up like this. Lately, it seems like more good site have begun to end up this way.

  34. PG Johnny Spence

    Amen.

  35. PG Lynne

    I think anyone working in this game for a few years will have met the whole spectrum in your article! Good post – what about a follow up post with a list of amusing exceuses to make the break ;-)
    Thanks

  36. PG Gabe S.

    Yea, I am deep in dud clients as well. Just got an email from the “dud” that the invoice was too high but they will pay as soon as I split up each item into separate invoices, but not X and X. So basically they are not going to pay the bill. Careful about these after-the-fact duds too, who make you jump through all kinds of hoops only to knock down the the cost and force you to either suck it up or take them to court (which is always a sever time sucker). Seems like Dud clients are a dime a dozen these days.

  37. PG Sam

    Great article. I would add that dropping a dud might actually end up being the best favor you will ever do to yourself, the industry, and the dud himself. A dud usually believes that he/she is allowed to act in a certain way, that it is normal behavior ‘in business’ and that it is actually part of why he is supposedly successful. At some point along the line, he/she is bound to fail miserably, so by dropping him/her, you might be offering an eye-opener…

  38. PG Paula Dauncey

    Couldn’t agree more with this, the 80/20 rule applies to client relationships, 20% of clients can take up 80% of your time, if you let them that is. We try to make it a rule to deselect the 20% where we can, or at the very least try to move them into the 80% group, but it ain’t easy when you have a strong customer service ethos.

  39. PG SandFighter

    Yeah, lately I had a client like that, he was a pain in my butt. Haggling, forgetting about payments, undervaluing my work and constantly complaining. I have ended my relationship with him after doing two design jobs (including coding, scripting and designing) for a lot less than I should be paid for.

    The article greatly reveals all the aspects of the clients that we all should avoid :)

  40. PG Deborah

    I’m in that little boat myself except I am not sure how to get out of it, since I don’t have very many clients at the moment and something has to pay my bills. I can say that I probably should try a little harder to get clients but alas, discouragement can become…well, discouraging.

    Anyways this is an excellent article and it will help me avoid any pitfalls in the future! Good job =D

  41. PG Andi

    Good advice. Back when I worked for an agency, we had a client who kept sending her work back for touch ups. Her face was on the product; she was in her fifties and the photographer made her look fabulous- everyone else who saw the original mock-up thought so but I spent weeks slowly draining the color and airbrushing detail from the photo to get rid of every stray wrinkle and sending it to the printer for proofs. We spent way too much money on this process and the day my boss finally gave her her money back and showed her the door she tried to haggle down the original price of the project.

    It felt good to see the back of her but it irks me that she just went somewhere else and they reused my design concept.

  42. PG Tanner Christensen

    Wow. The sixth point here is probably the most important one, in my opinion. A lot of freelancers (including myself, from time to time) often overlook the fact that some of our clients could do what they’re requesting us to do better than we can do it ourselves. Nice post.

  43. PG Francisco Galarraga

    Point #6 sounds almost like working at an ad agency.. where the creative tells you anything despite the fact that he cant even draw a straight line!

  44. PG Joel Falconer

    @Tanner: Actually, my point was that they seem to think they can do your job, but in reality cannot. They’re always right in the face of the expert’s opinion. :)

  45. PG Carina

    Great article and really interesting to read about other people’s experiences. I’m familiar with no. 1 and no. 3 and hope to avoid the rest of duds with the help of your article :)
    My personal recipe for dealing with clients type no. 1 is to deliver high resolution artwork ready for print only after receiving the final payment.

  46. PG Char

    OK, I have a current dud that has in the past given STEADY work that I am trying to get rid of. Get this- he qualifies all 6 points on the list! In the very beginning it was OK- I was treated fine, payments were prompt then the partnership dissolved in the business and I was left working with the 1 partner that seemed like a dud. He argued everything that I stated, his payments are perpetually late (I am still waiting on an invoice from 1 month ago that had 4 MONTHS of work on it, he didn’t pay the invoices before that) he has the nerve to ask me to do work still but hasn’t paid up yet. I told him I would not be able to do all his work needs but would compromise- he got upset and demanded I teach him components of what I do since he could do it as well himself. In addition to ‘forgetting’ about my invoices, he forgets past agreements etc. He thinks $12 an hour is fair for me, he argues about what is fair to him. I am a freelance FILM EDITOR and I provide all the gear, my other clients pay me minimum $25 hour for what I do it is BS!!!! He calls/emails on weekends/holidays and after 11pm at night, even though I don’t take those calls or respond to email he fills my voice/emailbox. I have tried getting rid of him, offering other polite suggestions/people that could take over the duties, I told him I am moving in a different direction but he STILL emails me tasks to do and completely disregards our conversation and that fact that I have not been pain for my services in over 4 months! If something minor goes wrong he acts like it was my fault and behaves as though everything is an emergency. It wasn’t until I started reading these blogs and talking to other freelancers that I realized what a horrible client he is. I honestly don’t know what to do about this. I think I might have to contact a broker to get my money from him and order him not to contact me anymore.

  47. PG modemlooper

    Dang Carina thats cold and I luv it! great post. Bad clients ruin you creatively as they suck you dry.

  48. PG Patty

    Yep, I can feel everyone’s pain. I have this client who’s been overdue the invoice for more than 3 months. I know this client has chronically late payments, but they always paid at the end. However, this time it’s a much bigger site, and there are a lot of update to be made. And each update I have to charge a fee, and somehow the client forgot that I am a freelancer not a full time employee. The client even sent an email telling me that they felt like I am holding a ransom for the update if they don’t pay up.

    I always have my service rendered quickly and then finish up the work asap. Now I asked for those invoices back from 3 months ago, they now came back to me and said that they don’t think the site is built efficiently and a lot of backend work has been redone. So they would only pay a portion of the invoice. And funny thing is that, the site was built earlier in the year, the portion of the payments are done, and the invoices are for content update only.

    I looked into the backend of the site (which they claimed major backend work has redone), I see none. The bone and the frame structure of the backend are still my code.

    How is that justifying? We provide people honest and professional work, and all you get is people want the work for free. *tisk tisk*

  49. PG Andrea Pelizzardi

    You rock man!
    Many many times, this is the unfortunate truth.
    :)

  50. PG Karla

    Great article, Joel, and something I can relate to. After nine months of doing freelance work with an Australia-based client, I finally threw in the towel. Seven of those eight months, he paid me late, and he gave very vague instructions and would seldom answer my queries. He never signed any of my contracts and claimed that his word is enough. I often had to send him four or five follow-up e-mails before he finally paid me, and he would complain that I only e-mailed him when it was billing time (which was not true–I sent him a weekly summary of what I did).
    But the worse thing that made me blow my top was that he said he was not my client, because I was not a corporation or an entity, that he was my employer, and I was his employee, when in fact, I was only doing an hour’s work a day.
    It’s disgusting when clients start to think you’re their slave. I could put up with the late payments or the strange instructions that don’t read at all like English, but if they start pushing me around because they think I can’t live without their money, then that’s the end of it.
    I must say I felt a HUGE sense of relief when I ditched him. He hasn’t replied at all to my last e-mail, so I’m guessing that’s the end of it. I don’t see him begging me to continue writing for him.

  51. PG Tim Oxley

    #7 “Promises of huge profit in the future” Like trying to lead a donkey with a carrot on a stick, I’ve had many clients try the
    ‘you do a few cheap jobs for us now, we’ve got lots of big money coming in the future’ &
    ‘You’ve got to prove yourself first’… or
    offering ’shares of the profit’.

    Sure enough, these things mostly never happen (in any reasonable time) or the business never appears to be making any profit, and you end up exploited and feeling like a damn foo’.

    BEWARE THE CARROT!

    (Karla’s experience above sounds incredibly familiar)

  52. PG sarahdippity

    great article, joel! none of the money is ever worth the pain of a bad client!

    @karla – wow! you’ve put up with that all that time?! so glad the dud is history!

  53. PG Ted Ciricillo

    Points well presented….

    I have found it takes 10 times more time and effort to manage a dud client than a good one. My advice is to dump dud clients as quickly and politely as possible.

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